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The Amphibious SUV.

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One of our teams needed to make a run down to the Green Zone in downtown Baghdad. So like normal I was placed in the rear vehicle. Driving down the road as fast as we can the driver of the first SUV caught a glimpse of a large pool of water at the base of the highway overpass. At first it looked like a puddle of water but as the cars still moving over 90 miles per hour the puddle became a pool and the pool became a lake. The driver asked if he should slow down to avoid the water hazard but the Officer in charge said, "no we can make that." The SUV ploughed into the water only to hit it like a brick wall. Lurching foward, the heavily armored SUV stopped suddenly at the bottom of the highway overpass. We slammed on our brakes and avoided the hazard in order to avoid the same mistake. I pushed the back door opened and sprinted to the nearest spot to provide immediate protection. We were in the middle of downtown Baghdad and we were still several miles away from the security of the Green Zone. Both sides of the highway had rows of multi-story apartment houses with their occupants already becoming curious to the situation.

"Call it in." I said to my driver, "and give immediate concern for additional firepower." The Soldier grabbed the microphone and began to call it in as a serious incident report. The 4 team members in the now swamped SUV came out and fall into the darkish colored water. "I wouldn't drink that or get that near your mouth folks." Tim said as he lifted his helmet up and wiped the sweat from his forehead, "that is raw sewage. Looks like someone blew a hole in the main sewer line and this is a big pool of pooh." One of the team members began to throw up as a shock as he walked from the hip deep murkish water. The wind blew the smell towards our nostrils which was so harsh that I lifted my T-shirt up to provide a brief break from the stentch. "You better go and see the doctors when you guys get back because you wouldn't want something to start causing some serious health issues."

"This smells worse than my cat's litter box." one said as he was struggling to unharness his gear. "Yeah, I think the cat box is actually cleaner than this crap." The next item was to secure the vehicle and strip it of any weapons, information, or gear that could be used by the enemy. So off back into the now brownish water, one of the Soldiers yanked on the handle of the door to no avail. "Did someone locked the door? Can I get the keys to get into this thing?"

That was something new, everyone seemed to forget where exactly where the keys to the doors at and who had them last. People began to empty their pockets and backpacks in a hopeless search to find a set of car keys. But no one could find them. The Soldier slowly crawled on the hood and peered inside the dark tinted windows. "Yeah I see them, there still in the ignition." It was one thing to lock yourself out of your car in a WALMART parking lot, it is a totally different piece when you are in the middle of a anti-American section of town, with one vehicle stuck in pooh water, battery dead, and electrical system gone, and the keys are locked in the sterring column. "Mac' get over here ASAP!" a voice cried out. I got up and dashed across the highway to the disabled vehicle. "What's up?"

"Well it would seem that we now have a 4 ton paperweight sitting in a lake of raw sewage. We are in a hot red zone and I need an assessment on the possibility of enemy contact?" the Officer asked as he was reaching for the map with our current coordinates. "I would say that we need to get the hell out of here most riki-tick before hajji comes up and opens up on us. We are not in a position to slug it out and we have not enough heavy weapons do take the fight to them. Not to mention that we are covered on both sides of the highway with potential firing positions for several snipers to start taking us down. We need MP and tank support, if we can get an air assest out here I will take that too. But we are sitting ducks over here." Just as I said that the local Iraqi kids came out and started asking for candy. "Candy candy mister mister." "Bush number 1 Saddam bad." "GI number 1 Saddam bad" I sat down on the concrete to take a break and my driver brought me a set of binoculars. Scanning both sides we could see movement of Iraqi adults mostly male making phone calls on cell phones. Cars began to drive around the areas again and again. It was then that the back of my hair on my neck began to feel like someone was pulling on it. "We gotta get out of here Mac. The are setting up for an attack or start some sniper fire." Gonzo said as he was low crawling to get some protection from the open areas that the highway created. "Listen stay down and if you see anything call me."

Radio traffic picked up and soon we got into contact with the area quick reaction force. At first it was just three US military police humvees but then one wrecker vehicle and their gun trucks came up to provide additional firepower. Still a little shakey, the Officer pulled his rifle over and fired several rounds into the back window of the stranded SUV. The heavily armored glass chipped away but failed to crack even after several well aimed shots at point blank range. I thought for sure he was going to get hit by a stray bullet. The MP NCO walked over and told the Officer to stop that (censor) and just hook the car up."

The kids suddenly ran back towards their homes and that is when I waved to one of the MP NCOs and pointed to the mass of kids moving away. "What gives?" one of the new Soldiers asked. "If the kids are around us then we are okay. It's bad press if they kill some innocent kid. But the kids are leaving which means that someone is about to do something and they want the kids out of the way." I said as I pushed myself low to the ground and waved for my little fire team to spread out and cover each other. My weapon was pushed from "safe" to "fire" as we waited for a most certain attack. All of us were straining to see anything but we couldn't get a fix or an idea what was going on." The Officer started to get nervous and began to yell for the Soldiers to pick up the pace but it was difficult to get the lines connected. "For God sakes we are sitting ducks here. We are going to get hit! What the hell are you guys waiting on, you want them to take us out! We'll be like fish in a barrel!" he screamed as the Soldiers pounded the bolts to secure the cargo straps to the back of the wrecker truck. Gunners in their seats began to rotate their heavy weapons in search of potential targets. It got really quiet and then I got the feeling that something is going down.

The first shot rang out and made that "ping" sound when it hits metal. "Oh (censor) we got a sniper!" One Soldiers stood up and attempted to look over the edge of our vehicle. Gonzo ran over and yanked them down to the ground, "you want to get your head blown off?"

The next couple of shots rang out in quick sucession. One of the gunners could see a twinkle of muzzle flashes and began to return fire from their M2 heavy machine gun. The "clank clank clank" sound mixed with the noise of the empty brass shells falling to the ground made a unique combination. Tracer fire I could see a small apartment house being ripped to pieces as the massive 12.7mm rounds pierced the walls and opened the house like a can of tuna fish. I wanted to fire my weapon but I could see the target and my limited range could not compete with the heavy weapons on the hummers. Then from the air we could see a helicopter fly over and the sniper fire ceased as soon as it had started. Sweating profusely I was drenched from head to toe. The whole incident had taken about 2 hours but it felt more like a day had passed. It was our first time we had been under small arms fire but it certainly was not the last.

We dragged the SUV back to camp and there it sat lifeless with a terrible funk smell that caused one to feel sick as soon as you opened the door. It would take considerable work and time to get the SUV back to operational use but that night we had made contact with one of the naval Officers and acquired the Naval Surface Warfare pin. We had a small awards event and presented the uniform pin to the Officer whose order got us into that mess. He was not that happy as the Major pinned the naval warfare pin on his polo shirt, we created a citation as well as given him his new nickname, "Skipper".

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{"commentId":2078220,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

Mac,

Great story, you can almost visualize each moment as you are telling it. I could only imagine what that must be like, intense high from the adreneline as well as fear...

Clipped to my column; Operation Heart and Minds and Centervine.

Thanks... great writing.

M

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Reply#1 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:41 AM EDT
{"commentId":2078538,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

RebelGirl:
I am glad you get the sense of the intense situation, I'll keep on writing as long as someone wants to read it.

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#1.1 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:49 AM EDT
{"commentId":2078557,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

Keep writing, if and when Rob gets done with his down time with family, I am sure he will love to compare war stories...

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#1.2 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:51 AM EDT
{"commentId":2079124,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

RebelGirl:
No problem, I have concluded that my house off post is where people feel safe and therefore I have a ton of veterans who come over almost ever weekend to hang out, cookout, drink, socialize, and just vent when they need too. Some veterans feel only "safe" to discuss such events unless they are around other veterans who have been there and understand the situation. When he has some down time I would enjoy hearing from him. Still waiting on those vault 8 list of yours..lol.

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#1.3 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:53 PM EDT
{"commentId":2079380,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

Just sent you mail... let me know if you are game.

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#1.4 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:52 PM EDT
{"commentId":2079438,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

Game on.

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#1.5 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
{"commentId":2211938,"authorDomain":"CarolinaGirl"}

Bad game to play don't you think.

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    #1.6 - Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:27 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":2079643,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

    mac, was that incident the Battle of the Septic Tank?

    I recall reading of a neighborhood kid who blew up a main and flooded an underpass. He ultimately blew himself and two other kids to pieces while tinkering with another explosives.

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      Reply#2 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:44 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2080146,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

      backroads:
      This was a problem that the local Iraqi government was dealing with, if the insurgents weren't blowing the septic lines up then the poor construction and terrible concrete would cause the water main and sewage to burst open and flood areas in Baghdad. This time it was from an explosion that had occurred an hour before we got there. It was small enough as to not gather much attention but the pressure soon broken the sewage pipes open. Either way it was so bad as far as smell goes that I couldn't get the stuff out of my clothes so even after two good washes I threw the clothes away.

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      #2.1 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:17 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2085590,"authorDomain":"pdiel"}
      it was so bad as far as smell goes that I couldn't get the stuff out of my clothes so even after two good washes I threw the clothes away.

      Dang! The stuff you guys have to go through, not clean at all.

      {"commentId":2085590,"threadId":"301856","contentId":"1618586","authorDomain":"pdiel"}
        #2.2 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:31 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2085780,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

        When there was a water shortage we took our showers in a wash basin using bottles of water.

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          #2.3 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:53 AM EDT
          {"commentId":2088210,"authorDomain":"pdiel"}

          Anything'll do when you're desperate for a bath.

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            #2.4 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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            {"commentId":2082047,"authorDomain":"pdiel"}

            Another great story from Mac.

            You definitely have a gift with words and describing a situation.

            I can almost imagine the smell....the kitty litter box has had it's moments in the past.

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            Reply#3 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2085114,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

            patricia:
            Thank you for your comments, I just want people to understand the situation as best as possible. The better you can visualize a situation the better you can see it from our perspective. Many thanks.

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            #3.1 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:37 AM EDT
            {"commentId":2085626,"authorDomain":"pdiel"}
            The better you can visualize a situation the better you can see it from our perspective.

            Well said. That's all I really need to be able to understand, to be able to "put myself in someone else's shoes" for a moment, at least.

            People with interesting stories to tell, they are a gift to humanity, I think.

            {"commentId":2085626,"threadId":"301856","contentId":"1618586","authorDomain":"pdiel"}
              #3.2 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:35 AM EDT
              {"commentId":2085763,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

              patricia:
              I just want to ensure for my kids sake that what we and the other guys who served in Afghanistan do not go unheard or forgotten. Like i said, I was no Rambo out there, the real guys who had it rough were those infantry and combat arms guys who were knocking doors down and getting shot at everyday. My stuff is light weight compared to their turmoil and stress levels.

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                #3.3 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:50 AM EDT
                {"commentId":2085829,"authorDomain":"pdiel"}

                I understand.

                I just wish those Anti-War protesters who scream at people just because they have a "proud relative of a US Marine" bumper sticker could read your work, too. Maybe they'd have a little more respect.

                Not to mention, everyone who has given their life throughout the history of our country - these protesters should appreciate their "freedom" a little more. You guys are the ones who help keep us free...but they can't seem to see the Big Picture for anything.

                Anyway, sorry for the rant - but I feel strongly about it.

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                  #3.4 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:58 AM EDT
                  {"commentId":2087056,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                  patricia:
                  When we first arrived home we had to go to a USAF/US Army post to have 24 hour "cooling down period". I called it that because we were given a room to sleep and specific times to report back to the person in charge to get our tickets back to Augusta, GA airport. So when we made it out of there we arrived in North Carolina. It was then that we were approached by some anti-war protesters who were asking us questions like, "how many Iraqi kids did you kill when you were over there?" "how can you wear that uniform with all those innocent people you killed all for oil for Bush?" I replied, "obviously you don't know (another word for pooh) about the situation over there because if you did you wouldn't be making such comments." Myself and my buddy "Gonzo" looked in disbelief. We were in our desert uniforms and then Gonzo was ready to hit one of them but one civilian pulled him back and said "don't worry about those nutcases they don't know the real deal." Then the man began yelling at the group and told them some choice words as he and a few others assisted us from getting bothered by the group. Then we noticed that they were all Vietnam Veterans and they were ticked at the anti-war crew. One said to me, "I know how you feel, I had all kinds of people spit on me call me names. I was hoping that you guys didn't have to deal with that BS. But I guess there are some real stupid people out there." They all gave us handshakes and slapped us on our backs and they wanted to buy us as many beers as we could handle but since we were in uniform we couldn't.

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                  #3.5 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:13 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":2087163,"authorDomain":"pdiel"}

                  Mac,

                  Why is it every time I read your stuff I get goose bumps?

                  Glad those Vets were there to balance out the hate-spewers.

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                    #3.6 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":2087241,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                    patricia:
                    I am not sure, I was glad that they were there, but also there were a number of other civilians who got mad and started to voice their anger at the anti-war crew. They said, "even if you don't like Bush leave the troops out of this."

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                      #3.7 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:36 PM EDT
                      {"commentId":2087501,"authorDomain":"pdiel"}

                      Those anti-war people are like little Tasmanian Devils.

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                        #3.8 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
                        {"commentId":2087586,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                        patricia:
                        If you were there i am sure you would give them a swift kick in the bottom.

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                          #3.9 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:11 PM EDT
                          {"commentId":2087618,"authorDomain":"pdiel"}

                          Mac,

                          You always have to have the last word, don't you? lol

                          Yeah, the Irish heritage in me might just have kicked-in...who knows? You guys probably don't need a girl sticking-up for you...

                          But, darn it! - I don't want those idiots to be a representative of the average American.

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                            #3.10 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:15 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":2087699,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

                            LOL Patricia....

                            Mac, You always have to have the last word, don't you? lol

                            I am not sure about that :L)

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                            #3.11 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:28 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":2087738,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                            patricia:
                            Nothing wrong with a little help, girl or boy, sometimes we all need a little assistance. But I am sure that your Irish heritage would have gone bezerk and started to clean house.

                            rebelgirl:
                            I rarely have the last word, I just like to add my .10 cents to the mix..lol.

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                            #3.12 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":2087809,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

                            LOL... still waiting on your last word... :L)

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                            #3.13 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:40 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":2087819,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                            rebelgirl:
                            I already sent you my last word...lol

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                            #3.14 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:41 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":2087831,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

                            Must be the crappy U.S. Govt...

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                            #3.15 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":2087857,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                            I sent that a while ago just before lunch time.

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                            #3.16 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":2087969,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

                            LOL.. I got nothing... nada...zilch... maybe you should resend :L)

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                            #3.17 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":2088005,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                            Wow, that's strange. I sent 2 other notes to your other account. When you get a chance take a look at them.

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                            #3.18 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:02 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":2088037,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

                            LOL... Yeah I haven't had good luck with military email with another viner :L) sometimes we would have to resend to get it the second time... it's all that spying you guys do, slows down the internet connection :O)

                            I won't be able to look at them till tonight, no yahoo at work :L(

                            {"commentId":2088037,"threadId":"301856","contentId":"1618586","authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}
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                            #3.19 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":2211944,"authorDomain":"CarolinaGirl"}

                            I would like to take a look at them myself.

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                              #3.20 - Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:31 AM EDT
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                              {"commentId":2082098,"authorDomain":"bigmomma"}

                              I could have sworn that I commented on this earlier! I agree with Patricia, you have a great gift with words, I almost felt like I was there.

                              I'm glad you all made it out of there safe!

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                              Reply#4 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:41 PM EDT
                              {"commentId":2085122,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                              rottlady:
                              You have mentioned that comment before, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. I just want to share and tell a story or two and hopefully the people will enjoy them.

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                              #4.1 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:38 AM EDT
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                              {"commentId":2082207,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

                              What a nightmare. Human waste is some of the most dangerous infectious agents you can be exposed to. Did any of the guys get sick afterwards?

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                              Reply#5 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:02 PM EDT
                              {"commentId":2085071,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                              Scott:
                              I didn't get sick then but I did get an infection on the left side of my neck. I am unsure if it was from that site or from a possible bug bite. But the area became so large that it was difficult to breathe and swallow. I went to the small medical facility and they had to lace the wound, then drain it and stuff anti-biotic material inside the wound to reduce the spred of infection. I was told that I could have suffered from severe blood poisoning. I was treated with heavy dose of anti-biotics and given a few days of rest. two of our guys became seriously ill after their dip in the human waste pool. They were pulled from doing any missions for 2 weeks for treatment. We made all the guys destroy their clothes after that incident. Even the KBR workers who operated the washing facility refused to accept those clothes and we were ordered to either burn them or destory them. This was difficult because the clothes were not uniform but civilian clothes since we were on a mission that required non-US uniforms. So the troops had to file for compensation to receive some extra cash to replace their personal clothes.

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                              #5.1 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:33 AM EDT
                              {"commentId":2086557,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

                              You're lucky that you dodged sepsis, Mac. If infections get into the bloodstream they kill the patient usually.

                              Those other guys that got sick I feel for them. Human waste is so contaminated that if it gets into any entry point in your body (a scratch or cut in the skin, in the eyes, nose or mouth) it will infect quickly. Did they reprimand the guy that ordered them to drive through it?

                              The clothes had to be a total loss. They're a biohazard once they're exposed to that stuff.

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                              #5.2 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:17 PM EDT
                              {"commentId":2087160,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                              Scott:
                              The Convoy Commander was not reprimanded, but he was hounded to death by the team members for his total lack of judgement. There were weeks after the event that someone had signs that read, "Hey Skipper" with a little SUV boat like symbol. He did apologize and then after never conducted a mission without some NCO giving him the straight opinion. As far as the clothes, yeah they were totally destroyed. We had to burn them in the burn pit near our living site. You are right, I mostly got that large infection due to a cut I had on my neck. The same area is the site that was swollen and discolored. I had to get a local and lucky for me they had a reservist medical doctor who in civilian world was a plastic surgeon. He fixed me up but the lance on the area was pretty long and it had to do some work to ensure I didn't have any disfigurement or scar. It was nasty. Won't go into too much detail, but when he cut into the area, it was like a balloon bursting. He called another doctor to ensure that no other area had been effected as well as checks to ensure that no blood poisioning had occurred. See, I had an incident in Kuwait somewhat on the same level. We were doing weapons ranges just before the war kicked off and I cut myself on a piece of old barbed wire that was rusted. I cut my knee and then stick my leg on the sand. A couple of days later it was huge and I just pulled my combat knife and cut into it. Then I poured peroxide on it, let it dry off and then covered with a large bandage. Nothing happened and all seemed okay. This time on the neck I thought I would do the same thing. So I grabbed my combat knife, got it really hot on the tip and attempted to lance it. But nothing happened except I made a nice cut along the neck. So the doctor looked at me and then looked at my neck. "I am going to take a guess here and say that you attempted to do some home-made medical treatment?" "Yeah, I thought I could take care of this with a knife." The doctor went off on a rage and scolded me for doing something so stupid. He then told me that I was close to getting blood poison due to the spread of the infection and the close location to several main blood routes. But I made it back okay.

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                                #5.3 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
                                {"commentId":2087371,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

                                Sounds like that cut was definitely the entry point. I don't know which side of your neck it was on but it was close to either the carotid artery or the jugular vein and that would have put it right into your blood.

                                I think you were able to treat your knee because it was an isolated spot. It isn't around any major blood vessels. However, I suspect that it also wasn't as dangerous of a bacteria as the human waste was.

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                                #5.4 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
                                {"commentId":2087548,"authorDomain":"pdiel"}

                                Sounds very similar to what a Brown Recluse Spider bite can do. It just keeps eating into the flesh and does not go away. A doctor has to usually lance it and then cauterize it inside.... just some useless info you might like to know... :)

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                                #5.5 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:07 PM EDT
                                {"commentId":2087578,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                                Scott:
                                The cut on the neck was just below my throat glands on the left side. True, the cut on the knee was more bacteria and dirt getting into the wound. The cut did extend to the jugular vein because the doctor made a note about that. I sat there for a few hours with these metal probes opening the wound apart so they could shove this medical treated anti-biotic string. They packed the wound with the stuff and then left a small amount out so they could pull it once it had killed the entire area of infection. It was the strangest treatment I have ever had but it did work.

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                                  #5.6 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:10 PM EDT
                                  {"commentId":2088017,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

                                  I hadn't heard of the string method either.

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                                  #5.7 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:03 PM EDT
                                  {"commentId":2088060,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                                  Scott:
                                  Yes, it was like medicated anti-biotic tape that was smaller than the size of a tape measure but rolled like one. They rolled it out and stuffed the entire amount inside the wound under the skin. The wound was treated from the inside. The doctor stated that this was the most immediate way to prevent blood poisioning so spread out. Since the wound had been lanced they wanted to also ensure that no other area of skin would get infected. I mean it was totally new to me but it did work effectively. Within a few days I went back there and he scanned and checked the color of the skin and texture and then pulled the materail out. The wound was completely treated and he gave me a few stitches to keep it shut.

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                                    #5.8 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
                                    {"commentId":2088123,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

                                    That's pretty neat.

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                                    #5.9 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
                                    {"commentId":2088232,"authorDomain":"pdiel"}

                                    So...in summary - human waste (I was goint to say "poo" but that seemed tacky) smells sooooo bad because we're supposed to stay away from it. Another self-defense mechanism that makes life so awesome!

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                                    #5.10 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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                                    {"commentId":2090352,"authorDomain":"darrellgrey-1"}

                                    Thanks for sharing these pieces.

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                                    Reply#6 - Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:20 PM EDT
                                    {"commentId":2105858,"authorDomain":"macattack20"}

                                    Darro:
                                    Thank you for reading them, I am working on a few more pieces and place them here as well. I tend to avoid the more heavy fighting times and just focus on everyday events to give an idea of common Soldier type stuff that people deal with over in Iraq. Many thanks for your comments.

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                                    #6.1 - Wed Jul 2, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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